Aug 23, 2009 12:00pm EDT
. >> guest: but immediately the first one out of the gate was rush limbaugh, and rush fully understood what it was to be able to opinionate. he had to live under the fairness doctrine guidelines when he located in sacramento, he told me that it was amazing that there was nothing doing political talk and he said oh, this is a cakewalk, my word, what fun this is going to be. then he had to succumb to the fairness doctrine by giving an hour of a program to somebody in the community who was concerned about what he said so he had to move over and it was the worst most boring hour of radio i'd ever done in my life and that's what was happening back then. there was no question about it. what we saw immediately was all of a sudden we could put commentators on the radio and have free opinions on the radio. we didn't to have act as moderators anymore. talk radio was so boring in the 1980s you could report your lost dog or you could, you know, report any kind of a matter like that. but it was -- share your favorite recipes. there were some good programs. i don't want to denigrate talk radio back then.
Aug 23, 2009 10:00am EDT
, rush limbaugh. you said, we have to tone down the militant and accusatory rhetoric. >> we do. we do. >> is it fair to blame the broadcasters for this atmosphere? >> yeah. the broadcasters have -- coping with a downward trend in advertising revenues for talk radio, the broadcasters have ramped up what they are saying. you have broadcaster saying the president is, quote, literally at war with the american people, literally at war is a very serious thing. al qaeda is literally at war. >> and has a deep-seated hatred for white people. >> and the thing that's so outrageous, people are getting more excited about than the details of health care. yes, this is a moment where because the president has advanced these ideas at a time of fiscal crisis, the republicans have an opportunity to reshape the president's plan in a way that is consistent with conservative values, to get control of costs, to improve competition, to defeat the public option -- >> and instead? >> and instead, the republicans are making some tactical gains at the price of making themselves look less like a future government